Let me side-step your primary question, and address what troubles me about your photographs. From what I can see, you were hunting at close range over a manmade waterhole and feeding location - what is essentially a bow-hunting set-up on many high fence operations. You are correct it makes for a pretty uninteresting rifle hunt - particularly with what I assume was a scoped.375?

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With your experience in hunting Africa you already know that how game will be hunted is a critical part of the dialogue one needs to have with an outfitter. Unless the area is particularly small or the PH particularly lazy, the VAST majority of outfitters will never place rifle hunters in such a set-up. Like a modern bow, it would be an opportunity for use of a black powder arm. Sorry you were trapped into that. My mistake - sorry - I'm tracking now. Then you are correct. A muzzleloader would be fun in that environment.

Have you considered a traditional cartridge rifle of some sort with open sights? I have a single shot Winchester 1885 in 38-55 and a modern single shot 45/70 (one of those Quigley replicas). Either would work for that sort of hunt. Even better might be a Martini Henry in 577/450 which would be effective at close range and a traditional bushveld rifle from the end of the 19th century.

You could even use blackpowder loads in one of those. A group of our members do a traditional hunt each year with such weapons. Any of those would be fun in that environment. Leslie, as mentioned in my other thread about the 1883 Era Black powder hunt, you are welcome to participate in this hunt next year 2019. There are conditions we set ourselves ( the hunters on this hunt) Since this is a re-enactment hunt of the way the old Boer/English hunters hunt, in the 1800-1910 era you need to wear the era clothes.

No modern black powder rifles/powder, you need to hunt on foot, stalk animals up to thirty paces before shooting. You need to carry the hunted animal into the camp, slaughter it, skin it and process it`s meat.Every one needs to participate in the camp activities like making food, baking bread, washing dishes, accumulate fire wood ect.No modern item may be visible in the camp area. There are no blinds to shoot from, all hunting is done by method of bush craft, especially when you hunt by tracking fresh tracks and tracking by sound, when the impala is in rut, they would balk to defend their territory.Black powder is available in all gun shops in South Africa, a new product, Obatex is a new black powder available in our country.It is only according to these requirements that hunter`s abroad may participate in our annual 1883 Era Black Powder hunt.I would like to see you and fellow Forum hunters on such a hunt. You have fine black powder rifles. Leslie, as mentioned in my other thread about the 1883 Era Black powder hunt, you are welcome to participate in this hunt next year 2019.

There are conditions we set ourselves ( the hunters on this hunt) Since this is a re-enactment hunt of the way the old Boer/English hunters hunt, in the 1800-1910 era you need to wear the era clothes. No modern black powder rifles/powder, you need to hunt on foot, stalk animals up to thirty paces before shooting. You need to carry the hunted animal into the camp, slaughter it, skin it and process it`s meat.Every one needs to participate in the camp activities like making food, baking bread, washing dishes, accumulate fire wood ect.No modern item may be visible in the camp area. There are no blinds to shoot from, all hunting is done by method of bush craft, especially when you hunt by tracking fresh tracks and tracking by sound, when the impala is in rut, they would balk to defend their territory.Black powder is available in all gun shops in South Africa, a new product, Obatex is a new black powder available in our country.It is only according to these requirements that hunter`s abroad may participate in our annual 1883 Era Black Powder hunt.I would like to see you and fellow Forum hunters on such a hunt. You have fine black powder rifles.

JP, this is a hunt done every year to get together hunter, using black powder rifles(original/copies of the rifles used in the 1800 era.most of these hunters are knowledgeable in bush craft, skilled in crafts like black smiting, leather processing, survival skills, tracking skills, living off the veld as well as versed in Boer/English war history. Participation numbers are determined/decided by the area hunted on the farm. We kept the total numbers of participating hunters/visiting hunters at twelve to fifteen hunters. Not all hunters participate the whole week and a few days, some hunters visit for a few days due to their work obligations. The permanent hunters are about ten hunters doing the whole hunt.Enough food for the first two days are taken on the hunt.from the second day`s end we commence living off the veld. As mentioned above, all hunting is done on foot.all meat is processed in the camp, all meals are prepared over the open fire, we use the skins to process into thongs and skins for clothing.It really is a great experience.

I managed to get hold of two oxen this year that we will use to collect fire wood and transport a Kudu that will be too heavy to carry on a pole to the camp.We will inspan the Kakebeen ox wagon at the farm gate to tow the ox wagon to our camp site about a kilometer from the farm gate this year.this will be something special about this year`s hunt. Good day to all members on the Black Powder forum.here is a great opportunity to participate in such a hunt.due to enquiries in regards to a Black Powder hunt in AfricaGood day to all members. Gert,I haven't read any questions on this, so I'll ask:Being an American, and your reenactment is 1882-1884.

Would it be acceptable for an American to join your reenactment wearing American period clothing and to use an American period correct firearm?Clothing could be anything from western, west of the Mississippi, 'cowboy' attire to East of the Mississippi farmer or city 'dude', to post 'Civil War' 'Yankee' military attire.American firearms of this period were being converted from muzzle loading to black powder cartridge guns: Sharpes, and Remingtons, in rolling block and trap door actions and Henry's (Winchester) lever action. And of course black powder cartridge revolvers and shotguns.I'll have to refresh my memory, but around these years a Frenchman (?) or Belgian (?) in Europe and an American in one of our New England states were both working on developing a 'smokeless' powder.

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White noise posts are for default subs.Posts related to politics MUST go in the comments of the triweekly political megathreads, or get mod approval BEFORE they are posted.No URL shorteners (bit.ly, tinyurl, etc).Please read the FAQmaintains an active. It contains:.A list of commonly asked questions that may have been already asked and answered.Gunnit Match rules, awards, and historical data.Before handling a firearm.remember, and remind those around you.Treat all guns as if they are loaded.Never let the cover anything you are not willing to destroy.Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.Gunnit MatchesCurrent Matches.Previous Matches.Competition open to all. Gunnit Chat Meet Ups:.- June 18th.- Aug 10+Related reddits now found in the. Hey everyone, after some questions and prompting on a post of mine on I decided to post this guide on gun law and ownership in South Africa. You might find it interesting since it's pretty uncommon to hear about anything other than American law on here. I won't be going into the situations under which it is legal to use a firearm for self-defence, since that is a lot more complex than in many other countries.

This turned a bit into an AMA, so have a look at a lot of the comments too.First things first, to own a gun in South Africa you must either be a permanent resident or a citizen. You must have no record of violent crime or violation of the Firearms Control Act 60 of 2000 (referred to as the act from now on). If you have committed a violent crime or violated the act, you must wait five years after such charges before you can apply to review your ban on firearm ownership.The first step to get a firearm in South Africa is apply for firearms competency. You must undergo evaluation at a training provider which has been certified by the South African Police Service which will evaluate your knowledge of the act and usage of firearms. There are separate tests for each category of firearm you wish to own: pistol, shotgun, bolt action rifles, and carbines (any self-loading long arm). The written tests are quite easy, being open book, and the operating tests even easier, requiring 4/5 shots into a relatively large target at very short range with the weapon in question. It's a bit of a joke, but that's what the law requires.

Once this is completed you receive a training certificate which you will later provide with your competency application. There is also a competency for black powder weapons (which are much less regulated), however I am not familiar with that process having never gone through it.You will also have to provide a document from your regular doctor stating that you do not suffer from depression, any other mental illness which causes altered emotional states, or are undergoing any treatment for emotional instability. You must also provide the police with at least two references of close friends or family who will be interviewed (usually via telephone) to judge that you are of sound and reasonable character without a history of violence. This is not strictly compulsory but in my experience has been generally enforced.Once you have all this you can go down to your local police station where a Designated Firearms Officer (DFO) will take your fingerprints and submit your application for competency.22s made by GSG or Chiappa will go for about $800, Norinco AKs will also be around that price. Cheapest 5.56 is likely a Saiga at about $1200, most ARs will be around $2000.

You used to be able to get locally produced Israeli Galil derivatives and FALs for about $1000, but the anti-poaching operations have really driven up demand for those guns.There are no magazine restrictions of any kind on any weapon.I mentioned this in the first post, concealed carry is compulsory if you want to carry, no extra licensing effort needed, if you have a license and you can hide it on your body you can carry it. Damn that's expensive, the laws seem pretty liberal for the most part. Thankfully guns are more popular in America than ever, hopefully we can get a few more exported for ya!I love living in Minnesota, I have a carry permit which means I can carry openly or concealed. I can also walk into any gun shop and walk out with whatever I want, and silencers recently became legal.

You also have a ton of choice for really cheap, I can get an AR, AK, or FAL for less than $1500 and a lot of times less than $1000.Are there any companies in SA that make quality sporting arms and pistols for consumers? Do you yourself carry? Do you live in the city or bush?. Yeah, the prices are really pushed up here by demand and limited supply, there is just so much red tape to go through to get anything here.

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Any time there is a big scare of new regulations in the US imports tend to dry up from panic buying over your side. ITAR reforms a few years back also caused a lot of smaller places in the USA to stop exporting to SA.Recently a company started producing an AR-like rifle for the local market, though there are some questions about reliability. Our local industry doesn't have the best history. The best locally produced pistol was probably the Vektor Z88, a licensed copy of the Beretta 92F. There was also a modified version with an alloy slide called the Vektor SP1, which is popular with older IDPA and IPSC shooters. The LM5 series of semi-automatic rifles is also well regarded, being based on the army R5 series of rifles which in turn are derived from Israeli Galils.There are a number of failed pistols which also litter our history, from the intriguing but flawed Varan PMX90 to the atrocious ADP (nicknamed the Accidental Discharge Pistol).

The Milkor BXP was a 9mm SMG based partially on the Uzi and MAC-10, it has a lot of accessories available for it, but there is nothing particularly special about it.A lot of hunting rifles are produced locally, usually based on copies of the Mauser k98 action or actions taken from older guns. Gunsmiths are relatively excellent around the country and old Musgrave RSA rifles are coveted by many locals.I do carry and I live in a medium sized town, though we're pretty much surrounded by sprawl from the nearby large city. The bush is never far from anywhere in South Africa;). Does it have the baby shit camo and all?Yep, didn't really buy it for the history though so it came off pretty quickly after being refurbished by Denel.What's the scariest and nicest places you've been too?Scariest place in world I've been to has to be The Democratic Republic of Congo. The people are nice enough but the government is a joke, there is no infrastructure, the country is humped dry by multinational mining corporations and there is not much scenery unless you like sweaty jungles.

Corruption is so endemic I'm not even sure you can call it corruption anymore, more like transactional fees.If you're white, you stick out like a sore thumb for any of the seedier elements (which is basically everything). If you're South African (black or white) you're despised as the arrogant rich kids of the continent (to varying degrees this is the case on most of the continent). I left a week before half the army deserted and attacked a South African peace keeping force outside the city I was staying in.The nicest places in Africa are South Africa, followed by Namibia and Botswana.

South Africa, despite its problems simply has the most money and infrastructure bar any other country in the continent. Namibia feels like a poorer province of South Africa with a weird number of Germans and more dirt roads. Botswana is a country with a lot of diamonds and too few people, aside from the natural assets there is about as much excitement there is in a sleepy town on a Sunday.Some of the nicer poorer countries are Rwanda and Ghana, those people are really trying to patch things up and they're doing a decent job of it. Mauritius and the Seychelles like to boast they have a higher per capita GDP than us, but I wasn't impressed when I visited. Nice places for a beach holiday though.Nicest place I've been to in the world has to be Germany, just gotta hand it to them, I enjoy the beer and that German efficiency.