Altec Valencia 846b Specs

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I saw them yesterday at an estate sale and the guy put on 'Bleeker Street' by Simon & Garfunkel and they blew me away. Unbelievable sound!

They were 68' or 69' floor model that were immaculate. He wanted $950. So I asked if the price would drop tomorrow and he said yeah. When I got there this morning there was a sold sign on them.

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Re: Specs for Altec Lansing Valencia speakers. Posted by Ciscokid (A) on October 19, 2005 at 19:44:22 In Reply to: Specs for Altec Lansing Valencia speakers posted by jsturg@epowerc.net on October 18, 2005 at 17:43:35. Problems with Altec Valencia speakers. Post by Harryn » 25 Aug 2010 02:27 I just bought 2 pair of these, and they were advertised as all 4 being Altec 846B speakers. I did some research on this forum, and on Ebay, and saw that I was getting a good deal at $300 a pair. The cabinets looked much better than the ones I saw on Ebay for $1000 a pair.

I wasn't going to leave there until I cut a deal with him. He sold them for $650.

I would have paid that. Does anyone here use or have seen these speakers? Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated. Maybe somewhere I could find a pair of these. I saw them yesterday at an estate sale and the guy put on 'Bleeker Street' by Simon & Garfunkel and they blew me away. Unbelievable sound!

They were 68' or 69' floor model that were immaculate. He wanted $950. So I asked if the price would drop tomorrow and he said yeah. When I got there this morning there was a sold sign on them.

I wasn't going to leave there until I cut a deal with him. He sold them for $650.

I would have paid that. Does anyone here use or have seen these speakers?

Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated. Maybe somewhere I could find a pair of these. Click to expand.I don't know which model you were looking at, but I used A7's and 604e's extensively in the 70's. The A7's were generally used for PA and the 604e's were frequently used as my monitors when mixing monitors or doing live broadcasts. I wouldn't call the 604e's the greatest audiophile speakers, but they were point source and not harsh. They sounded very smooth but were a little soft on the high end.

It may seem odd to say that horn speakers were not harsh, but these were not when compared to some the JBL horns we were using at the time. Of course this was very important since I was listening loud and couldn't afford to get listener fatigue.

Generally things mixed on them sounded pretty good elsewhere. I don't know which model you were looking at, but I used A7's and 604e's extensively in the 70's.

The A7's were generally used for PA and the 604e's were frequently used as my monitors when mixing monitors or doing live broadcasts. I wouldn't call the 604e's the greatest audiophile speakers, but they were point source and not harsh. They sounded very smooth but were a little soft on the high end. It may seem odd to say that horn speakers were not harsh, but these were not when compared to some the JBL horns we were using at the time.

Of course this was very important since I was listening loud and couldn't afford to get listener fatigue. Generally things mixed on them sounded pretty good elsewhere. I may be wrong, but I don't think Altec made too many types of speakers. I'll bet that your speaker cab probably had a 604 series 15' coaxial speaker, or the components of the A7 in a nice cabinet.

If it was the later, the cabinet would be fairly massive. The A7 had a 15' woofer and a sectoral horn fitted on a compression driver. As far as the commercial versions of the A7, sometimes the horn was on top of the cabinet, and sometimes it was inside it.They did make some smaller speakers as well that were geared towards the hi-fi market. I believe these used 12' woofers. But a lot of 604's and A7 ended up in nice cabinets in living rooms. Click to expand.Thanks for that link www.

I found and idenified the speaker. It was in the 1971 home section and was the A7 Flamenco.

Now I see it went with a console and the speakers were seperate or sat at the end of the console. He had the console across the room and the guy either didn't know or didn't tell me they were together. But he wasn't using it with the console. He must have upgraded to that Yamaha. He also had a turntable I had never heard of but it was a guy's name Hamilton Something or other made in Farmingdale, NY.

Thank you for helping me identify them. I may be wrong, but I don't think Altec made too many types of speakers. I'll bet that your speaker cab probably had a 604 series 15' coaxial speaker, or the components of the A7 in a nice cabinet. If it was the later, the cabinet would be fairly massive. The A7 had a 15' woofer and a sectoral horn fitted on a compression driver. As far as the commercial versions of the A7, sometimes the horn was on top of the cabinet, and sometimes it was inside it.They did make some smaller speakers as well that were geared towards the hi-fi market. I believe these used 12' woofers.

But a lot of 604's and A7 ended up in nice cabinets in living rooms. Click to expand.They're not bad, but not audiophile IMO. These speakers were actually designed for movie theaters and in fact they were called 'Voice of the Theater'. If they're A7's like I said it's a two way with a 15' woofer (a folded horn in the commercial version) and a fairly large sectoral horn with I believe a 2' driver. I think the driver was non metalic which is a good think, but I can't be sure anymore.They're very effecient. I drove a pair of A7's with my Marantz 2270 and this was for my college band's PA.

I could play them very loud. How bad can they be if many movie theaters used them. I could say the same for most JBL speakers. They're not considered audiophile by many, but that doesn't mean they aren't good. OTOH, they were considered professional speakers, though probably not in your cabinets. They're not bad, but not audiophile IMO.

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These speakers were actually designed for movie theaters and in fact they were called 'Voice of the Theater'. If they're A7's like I said it's a two way with a 15' woofer (a folded horn in the commercial version) and a fairly large sectoral horn with I believe a 2' driver.

I think the driver was non metalic which is a good think, but I can't be sure anymore.They're very effecient. I drove a pair of A7's with my Marantz 2270 and this was for my college band's PA. I could play them very loud. How bad can they be if many movie theaters used them. I could say the same for most JBL speakers.

They're not considered audiophile by many, but that doesn't mean they aren't good. OTOH, they were considered professional speakers, though probably not in your cabinets.

Click to expand.I wouldn't have a clue as to what they're worth. I seem to remember us paying about $500.00 for the pair in utility grey cabinets back in the early 70's. The cabinets probably add quite a bit to the price.I'll bet they sound sweet with tubes, being they are so effecient.

Of course these speaker were fairly popular with the hi-fi crowd in the 50's and 60's and I'm guessing most of them were tube driven.For the most part, these speakers are the same as what they had in the 40's, so the technology is not exactly new. Of course that is not meant to be a negative statement at all. Klipsch speakers are somewhat similar and many members here absolutely love them. Mark, there are a lot of diehard ALtec users that hang out on the High Efficiency forum on AudioAsylum. Doing a search there and then asking any questions you have should get answered.Also, you ought to check out this site, dedicated to vintage Altec users. This place really knows their stuff on all things Altec.I don't know the prices of A7s, but $650 seems like a very fair price to me. Probably a couple hundred below value.

The size of them makes them very low on WAF and won't fit in just any room. I believe the A7 were designed for a very large room. The 604 duplex drivers were designed as studio monitors and were for nearfield listening.

Models 14, 17, 18 and 19 seem to be more desireable for audiophile use, anyway thats how it seems to me, I could be wrong. Click to expand.When I started out with my band it was the A7's. The first large show that I ever did as an amateur used four A7's per side. I used our two, two from a stereo store in town, and four that I rented from my future employer. I also rented some horns and did my first biamped pa. I was kind of scared when I hooked it all up, because if anything blew I was on the hook.

I'm happy to say it all worked out well.When I returned the rented gear the next morning I was offered a job as a sound engineer. As it turned out I was graduating from college the following day and started working at Sound West the day after that. I never dreamed I could make a living doing pro sound until they offered me that job. In fact, I had no idea what in the world I would have done after graduating.When I started with Sound West, our 8x8 was (2) JBL 4550's and (4) 4560's per side. The 4550 used (2) 15' speakers and was double the width of the 4550's.

Of course that didn't include the horns. With those speakers we used (4) 2440's on 90 degree mid horns and a bunch of 2420's with smaller horns for the highs.We also had about 16 A7's but we rarely used them after going to the JBL's. They belonged to a good friend who did sound for about 6 years before I started working with him. I was at a Pink Floyd show in 1970 that he did sound for and he had the 16 A7's spread out in horizontal arrays, 8 on each side of the stage. I actually have a recording of the PA mix and it is a great momento.

Everytime I hear it I think of those A7's.I think Bill started with those A7's in 1969 and they were used at over 100 shows that I know of. They were just about retired when I started working with him in 1975.

Before you take the trip, have him send you photos of the interior of each speaker to make sure you are getting what you think you are getting.
Post the photos here and we can all let you know if they look correct and have not been tampered with.
I see from that listing that the speaker terminals have been modified, so, for me, that is always a potential red flag that other, more serious, changes may have been made.
If he is unwilling or unable to get you these photos, definitely take a pass.
As to price, it is tough to say.
Right now, on ebay, there is a mint pair in the middle of an auction where the bidding is already over 2800. That seems a bit high, but if the pair is close to mint, it is probably worth it. Fwiw, I paid 2000 plus shipping for my near mint pair a number of years ago and have never regretted it.
3 comments: They are not making any more of these. Pairs in great condition are becoming increasingly rare. And, finally, when you think about how much new 'Shindo compatible' speakers are selling for, 2 or 3 thousand dollar speakers are a veritably bargain.